shutdown Monday

Isn't that what the more militant side of my ilk has been saying all along, that it's not primarily about border security, or losing jobs. or drugs coming in, or whatever, it's about keeping non-whites or non-Europeans out, it's about making America whiter again?  So perhaps Beagles would have preferred some racist guy who was more genteel, more sophisticated.

I'm going to wager that Cheboygan is not overrun with non-European, non-white types, so I wonder where he sees this dreaded race-mixing.  Maybe he sees it in those brief glimpses of his tv or when he peers under his bed before he turns in.

This is the first working day of the shutdown  It is foggy, but I don't think that has anything to do with it.  If I wanted to fly out to New York and walk and get inside the Statue of Liberty (bring me your tired, your huddled - but only your white European - masses) that would not be possible.  Beagles is right that not much becomes of these shutdowns, but that is because they are mostly ended shortly after they begin.  Potentially after maybe a month the whole army would pack their bags and go home much as George Washington's did back in those wintry Valley Forge days.  I wonder if that would be a bad thing.

We do lose a lot of money on these affairs, primarily from government borrowing which will have to be done at a higher rate of interest, which grows the national debt further, but who cares about that anymore? Likely the polls will decide.  Right now they are on the dems side, and it looks like the dems are standing steady.  The thing about DACA is the dems are only asking for a vote on the matter.  Most likely it would pass in a straight vote, so the reps are holding up the government rather than allow a vote on what most Americans want anyway.  I can't  see where the reps can claim to be the good guys on this one.

And if and when the reps cave, well how can they do that?  With Trump and the freedom caucus and what all, they don't even control their own party.  How can the dems accept  a compromise from them when Trump will come down against it the next day, or if the not the next day, maybe the day after that, maybe any old time.  How can the dems trust anything the reps might offer.