so is your mother

The missing kids was a big uproar that I had heard nothing about until I read Beagles' post,  I didn't read anything about the people they placed them with not answering telephones.  You would think the gov would have ways of finding people who didn't answer their telephones.  I suspect that the gov basically doesn't give a shit, since what they are chiefly interested in these days is separating the kids from the parents who are applying for asylum, to scare people from coming here to apply for asylum.

Elian, that's the name of the kid.  The father was not estranged, and the question was who has more claim on the kid, relatives who he has never met, or his father.


Then there is Roseanne, some muttering among the Republicans about how it was not right calling Valerie Jarret the daughter of apes, even some White House characters have said the same, but not their orange poobah.  Then Samantha Bee calls Ivanka a cunt, which was also not right, and so Orangey complains about that, but not a word about Roseanne.  This is the so is your mother defense, wherein instead of condemning bad actions on your part you try to deflect attention to bad actions on the other guys part.

I don't like this argument, like the slippery slope argument it is flawed.  What should be done is you should address your own bad actions first, and then address the bad actions of the other side,  The thing is that if Samantha Bee is wrong (and I believe most liberals are acknowledging that.  Some unfortunately are pointing to bad actions by the Trumpists, and they, like the Trumpists, are also behaving badly), than so is Roseanne, so why not admit that she was also wrong.

Also it's a bit of apples and oranges, the cases are not the same.  Roseanne has a long history of doing this shit, Samantha Bee does not.  And in this particular case, these are not government actions (to fire or not to fire), but actions by ABC and I think Samantha Bee's show's parent company is CBS, and one decided to go this way, and the other another way.


Correction.  I just came across a Mona Charon column on the subject and it wasn't asylum that the parents were being held for, it was for crossing the border.