sanctimonious liberals

I think religion brought on the English Civil War, and I think the English, who had abolished slavery, were probably more enlightened than the colonists who started the war, I reckon it was one of the factors in the French revolution though.

Ideas and change have always been like the chicken and the egg to me.  Do ideas cause social change, or do the social changes cause us to have new ideas?

I think liberals, conservatives, and libertarians (crackpots) are all equally descendants of the early day enlightenment liberals.  And the big problem of the current day liberals is, as Beagles perceptively points out, that it's not enough to believe what we believe, others must also believe it.  If you are against slavery it is probably not enough that you don't own any slaves yourself.

I think it 's pretty clear that race hatred weakens the country,  Some of the most competent people can never rise to the top because they are from the race on the bottom, and there is that recurring violence which is unpleasant.  So that's the pragmatic reason against bigotry.  The moral reason is that it just doesn't feel right.  Should some people have a rougher road to hoe because of their race?  If you don't think so then you feel you are in the right, but then it must follow that the others are in the wrong.

And see that's where I think us dems lost the people in the hollers Instead of just telling them now see here my good man, the country would run more smoothly without all this racist shit, we acted like they were morally wrong.  I think we are way too fast to call other people racist.  Even if we think they are, what is gained by calling names?

Just to make a point I would say that the difference between education and indoctrination is the former is suchandsuch is right because of this, this, and that, and the latter is suchandsuch is right because I say so, and also I am holding this big club.  Looking back to Gage Park High I would say that was mostly indoctrination, pretty much only one way was correct.  College was more like what I would call education in that a lot of things were what do you think, and why do you think that.

No Beagles, hate is hate regardless of whether it is from the overlords to the downtrodden or from the downtrodden to the overlords.  The latter though is seen as a little more acceptable in that they are being downtrodden, so there is some justification.

President Yo Mama?  What the fuck?


The thing about hate and pity, is pity is what you feel for the poor and the disadvantaged, and that pity is a good thing because it  moves you to help them out (slip them a fiver).  But in the phrase, I don't hate her, I pity her, and here I am thinking of the town biddies speaking of the fallen woman, I don't think they are thinking of helping her out at all I think they are being sanctimonious.

 sanc·ti·mo·ni·ous

ˌsaNG(k)təˈmōnēəs/

adjective

derogatory

1. making a show of being morally superior to other people.
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Since Old Dog was speaking of Dump he probably meant it differently.  I was just objecting to the phrase in general use.

Well I am a big fan of Kurt Vonnegut.  He always wrote the same book, but he wrote it well.  I like his brand of cynicism and I like his style.  I like a guy who is a little jazzy with his language.  I never heard of that Doctorow, and his wiki wasn't very impressive.  Why is he among Kurt and Arthur C?  I was a big fan of Arthur C Clarke back in my teens, he was one of the more scientific science fiction writers.  By the time of Space Odyssey he was getting a little weird, but in a logical way.  What criteria was this curious site using to analyze writing?