the boys of ice cream oppose free trade

I meant to ask you last time, how would you feel if Montana or California decided to leave the union?  How about Michigan?  I guess you would feel pretty good about that, and Cheboygan even better, and as for Beaglesonia it is already a freehold.  If Beagles erects a tariff on bringing beer into the freehold, too bad for the beer vendors of Cheboygan.  Luckily for you though you get to collect the tariff.

I am trying to look for some general principle behind Brexit which makes you favor it because otherwise what do you care what England does?  As a matter of fact I suspect that you are not a big fan of England who used to rule roughshod over your very people who rose up and tossed them out on their red britches so that the United States did not become the hellhole that Canada is. 

Oh wait, not your people, or not all your people, some of your people were living in Bohemia, which was probably at the time under the heel of the Hapsburgs in the late, hardly lamented, Austro Hungarian Empire.  The Bohunks had to suffer being rolled over by the Krauts and then the Russkies to get free of that and then those ungrateful Slovaks didn't like the Bohunks rolling over them.

But your people weren't there then, they were part of the swarm when the US was being overrun by undesirable aliens.  Too bad the Know Nothing party didn't win that election then so that the citizens of that day could have protected themselves from becoming a minority in their own country, which of course they had taken from the Indians who i suppose had taken it from the wooly mammoths.

Well you know me, I am a one worlder, whereas you would be happiest if everybody in the world had their own little Hell's Half Acre and peered over the ridge through the sites of Old Betsy at all those other people peering over their ridges at people who didn't go along with their agenda and wanted to take them over.

Brussels doesn't run the EU anymore than DC rules the US.  They put their capital in Belgium the same way we put our capital outside of any state.  They send their people there the same as we send our senators and reps. 

If those Irish people you were speaking to didn't like the Sprouts ask them how they felt about the English.  Ask the Scottish how they feel about the English.  They decided by ten percent not to secede from England, but that was before the English decided to secede from the EU which the Scottish liked.  If they held another referendum today the Scots might vote differently.  As a matter of fact the referendum to secede from the EU was only by four percentage points.  If they held it a month earlier or a month later, or if the weather had been different on election day, the results might have been different.

What a strange thing to decide a national policy on a one time referendum.  If we did things like that in the US we would be changing presidents every other year or so.

So in summary I believe you are in favor of it on the principle that every man is an island, and you don't like immigration, even if it is happening somewhere else.

And I think we are on different sides of the libertarian thing on free trade.  I generally favor it because you know it is a smoother economic engine.  Isn't it better to buy cheap Florida oranges than spindly oranges grown in Michigan, and wouldn't the Floridians prefer crisp Michigan apples to whatever pest ridden apples they grow in Florida?  And wouldn't Floridian and Michigander farmers rather sell their product throughout the country than just in their own state?

My ilk is generally against free trade because they don't trust the deals made, they think we are always getting the short end of the trade stick.  As a matter of fact isn't that what Americans in general think of every deal that America makes?  Poor Uncle Sugar, hornswaggled by bunch of greasy foreigners everytime he sits down open-handed and all friendly-like to make a deal.  Hard to believe isn't it? 

So anyway I'm with the Libs on free trade, though the current 'Tarians! seem to think that the principle of every man is an island trumps (no pun intended) that, and it seems that you think likewise.  So who is the Libertarian (not to be confused with 'Tarians!) now?